HUNQZ ratings by none-customers

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There is the manner of frustrated potential customers who where refused by HUNQ or with whom it was not possible to fix a date to write a negative rating. In the past those (guestbook entries) could be deleted easily without any consequences... but not they could be blended out only, but they still count. This is a problem, because if you are an successful HUNQ you get many request per day and of course many, many request from people who are not interessted in a date but in pictures. If you dont send pictures, THESE none-customers are able to give an negative rating now and by that they are able to press an escorts behaviour.


Planetromeo is used by many people who are mentaly conspicuous or begrudging (to people who look good, have nice body and are successfull). If they get a chance to damage them, they will do. At the moment they dont know that there is such easy possiblity to damage escorts profiles. Of course you can put only one rating per profile... but this people have more than one profile.


So please make a possibility to DELETE Ratings (but then your stars make no sens) or make a possibility that ONLY people have the right to rate, with whom a date was FIXED. So no rating after an escorts accept a date (that could be rated). There have to be 3 Steps:

- ask for a date

- accept a date

- rate a date


At the moment there is the possibility to rate even if there where only chats... and i think it shouldnt be possible to rate an escort if you havent met him...

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To help to build a really strong and fair rating tool for Escorts/ HUNQZ:


At first (and as long as the rating system doesnt work correct/fair), PLEASE allowed HUNQZ to delete ratings (as they were able before to delete guestbook-entries); of course they can contact the support, but not all escorts want or are able to write and get in contact directly; and there is no need to let ratings in, as long as the system doesnt work fair. Second please view the author of anonymous ratings and if it is positive or negative for HUNQZ. It is okay to allowed anonymous ratings in public but not to HUNQZ. And a HUNQZ should see if a rating is positive or negative, because if not, the system is not able to help the HUNQZ to make their service better.


In the next step please change this things (if you really want a "strong" rating tool):

- no possibility to change or delete ratings: I dont know if you know the escort-business a little bit, but if there was a date and the customer was happy about it, he will give a positive rating and repeat the date after a while; unter that aspekt (repeating a date) most customers ask for or want a reduced price (80%) or better other conditions (longer time for the same price and so on). Some customers try to neogate for every date and all this causes - of course - conflicts with an escort who will not reduce his price. Half of the customers accept it and the old price, the other half doesnt do and start arguing or block an escort and so on. If they have the possibility to change their old rating from positive to negative, they are able to press the HUNQZ. There are many customers who were happy about the date afterwards and give a good rating, but some time later, they are not happy any longer, because the escorts wont give them better conditons (for what is really NO reason). Then they delete or change a rating. That is NOT fair, because the first day they rates was good and i think there shouldnt be a rating possibility, that an escort have to be as they want him to be for ever. No rating changes and no possibility to delete old ratings, BUT possibility to rate each date again.

- no possibility to rate without the HUNQ accepted an date or better a DEAL (because some hunqz sell underwear and so on), so as i suggested before: the customer ask for a deal, the HUNQ accept a deal and the customer then can rate the deal. This 3 steps will prevent many problems with fake ratings to cause damage to the escorts.

- think about a rating system, that allows the HUNQZ to rate the customers too (after they asked for a deal and the escort accepted it): there are many customers who treat escorts very bad and dont pay what they said to pay and so on. I think 60-80% percent of the customers know that escorts have no possibility to do something, if they dont get the money and so on. Think about that escorts are often the poorest people in that business. of course there are escorts who are criminal and so on, but from my point of view, the main problem are the customers: they book an escort but dont open, dont pay, start discussions, say they dont have enough money and so on; when escorts were rated by customers, there is no reason why customers shouldnt be rated by escorts. of course an escorts is a buisnessman and he offers service, so that his ratings should be public. but there should be ratings of customers and the customers should be able to decide if they will view them (for escorts only, of course). Many customers know that there are problems of trust, and such a ratingsystem would be able to solve those problems.

- another idea is to add special votes (1-5 stars) for reliability/punctuality, currentness of pictures, verity of pictures (does they show the person who appears), verity of dicksize, age, adequacy of price, ... built 3-5 categories that customers should give stars for; but dont show these stars of each rating to the escorts... only the total amount/average of stars... like within ebay: there is a rating, everybody can see if it is positive or negative, there is text everybody can read, and there are 3-4 categories you can give stars, that nobody can see, but the average

- allow escorts to disable a rating, but NOT to delete it (if you changed to the 3-step-system as described); it is nessesary to disable an rating, so that it is not viewed, because some ratings are not fair or even illegal content and that may cause trouble; they should count, but there is no need to show the text or so on. maybe you construct it that the rating is displayed with date, positive or negative, but without it text and therefore a line that it was disabled by the escort. so everybody can see when and how many negative ratings there are AND if the escort is fair to view them too, or if he decides to disable them... their TEXT i mean.

- allow multiple ratings (each date/deal one vote): many escorts have customers that book them again and again and dont get new customers so often. if there is only the possibility for one rating, this is not able to be displayed... as within ebay multiple ratings should be possible; you can decice that they will be viewed (as within ebay), but count only one time (as within ebay).

- add an possibility to comment a rating by the escort: if customers are allowed to rate (and write negative things), an escorts has (the natural right) to reply; now you have a system, that allows anonymous shitstorm and the escort is not even aple to know from whom it is... that is very, very irritating, to support that.


And again: mention that most customers dont behave correct, like most escorts here dont behave correct. there is a big complex of misstrust and criminality on both sides. The ratingsystem shouldnt be designd only from the point of view of poor custumers who have to be protected from criminal escorts. the main aim of such an system shouldnt be to bully escorts arround. create a fair system without the need of an excuse that fakers are everywhere. it is NOT fair to create a system, that allow anonymous ratings without any possibility to know from whom they are, without any objective reason (date or deal) and without any possibility to reply.

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HUNQZ who lost their 5 Stars because of negative user ratings are jeallous of HUNQZ with 5 Stars and rate them negative, only to reduce their stars.


The new rating-system (rating is possible by everyone) is a big problem, because within a short time there will be no more escorts with good ratings. For each negative vote you need ten (!) positive ones to compensate it completely (and not to loose 1/2 Star), because you need 95% positive ratings to get 5 Stars. That itself is ok, but if there are frequently negative ratings of users (not customers) who wanna press pictures or jealous other HUNQZ or only squinting people, it makes no sense. a positive rating a HUNQ will get only for a good date. but it is not possible to have so many dates to compensate the number of negative (unfounded) ratings completely. So everybody will lose it stars only because of a mass of negative ratings by non-customers.


You cant compare this ratings with ratings of hotels, products and so on, which everybody can write without any proof of having bought or booked something, because there are less incentives to write negative ratings if there is nothing negative. Here (with escorts/HUNQZ) the main thing is a personal/sexual base and aspekts of beeing jealous become relevant.


I dont know why nobody thought about it, but even in normal chat you get conflicts with normal users, you have to block them, they create new profiles and so on. Of course Escorts/HUNQZ have this conflicts too, but much more and heavy. People who book Escorts or need escorts, because nobody want have sex with them, have (nearly all) special mental problems (because of that). half of them are okay, but the other halfe are mean.


I mean what is the idea of everybodys possibility to rate a HUNQ? That HUNQZ now have to do everything even in chat (!) to be liked by everyone and hope that every stupid chatter is satisfied and will not give a negative rating because of any minor reason?


It is an absolute no-go, that EVERYbody is able to leave a rating for an escort without anything was fixed.

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The stars were added to my profile a few days ago. I am quite new and I only had 7 real reviews from real clients, and I got 4 stars out of 5 right from the start. First of all I don't understand how this was calculated, because I think that on the old website there was no way of adding an appreciation (thumbs up/down), only a comment, and I know that most of my clients used the old website. But I might be wrong on that. Suddenly I received an anonymous review and my stars dropped from 4 to 3. I was on holiday and I am sure it was a fake review because I had not met with anybody during my holiday. Nowadays you can't even see which user placed the anonymous review, so these scammers can do what they want. I have contacted Planetromeo and deactivated my profile until they come up with a solution. I may also cancel my Plus subscription by the end of the month if nothing changes.


Planetromeo, please think twice before you change things!

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Yes, then you know what the problem is. If you have 3 Stars, then there are 20% negative ratings... maybe/of course fake ones... If normal users check how it works, they can damage easily an escorts rating by only a few negative ratings. of course it is only possible to rate an escort ONE time (form one single profile). but we know, that nearly everybody has more than one profile here... so it is very easy to leave a few negative ratings within minutes... and mention, that it is now (!) possible to create new profiles without e-mail-verrification. with this profiles you are not able to contact normal users, but escorts... and leave ratings. so it is very, very easy to create new profiles (even without having several email-accounts) to damage escorts reputation...


This rating-system is nonsens and seems to be for bullying escorts arround.


And maybe the planetromeo-team thinks about a rating system (as discribed in my first message) with a possibility to rate customers, too. Maybe on a way that this is only displayed for escorts (on hunqz.com), so that normal users are not able to see those ratings. I dont know what the planetromeo-teams opinion from escorts is, but maybe they think about that MANY of the customers = their users dont behave correct and other escorts should get information about this like the customers get ratings.

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I've been thinking about this and actually no system is faker proof. There will always be fakers and they will always misuse the system where possible.


As a comparison, on RentMen users can leave a rating with stars, and the stars are shown on every single rating. The system will not calculate an average rating, so even if fakers would place a negative rating, it would only impact that one rating, not the total rating of the escort. That is probably the safest solution. However, personally I prefer how it used to be on the old website. The escort could also see who placed an anonymous review, which was also an additional control.


Meanwhile I'm keeping my profile deactivated. I'm waiting for Planetromeo to come up with a solution, or at least remove the stars from my profile. They have not yet answered the e-mail I sent them about a week ago.

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As you can see, you have activated your profile again without any solution. So planetromeo will not help. From that point of view it is not very clever what you write in your profile text, because "normal" users dont know how the rating-system really works and that is - for a short time - an ADVANTAGE for Escorts. What do you think how many stalkers know you or people who wanna damage you? If there is only one and if he knows how the system works, he is able to damage your ratings completely within minutes (by 4 or 5 ratings from his other profile that he will have for sure). So dont write what you and other escorts know about the system. enable negative ratings and hope, that the number of positive ones will rise stringer that the number of negative ones (untill you have enough positive ones, so that stalkers are not able to cause an effect). And again: what you write is not very clever, because only a few will read (included the stalkers), but not your real customers. Ask people who know you, if they renew an old rating/guestbook-entry with thumb up and hope that enough will do to compensate negative ratings... BUT DONT explain everybody how the system works and by thy how they can cause damage to the escorts. Here are many people who are mentaly not okay and have fun to damage escorts... think about that, before you do things like informing everybody about this public...

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I suggest you let others decide what they want to do on their profile. Who are you anyway?

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Thank you for your valid feedback, PLANETROMEO and HUNQZ have placed a goal for themselves to grow the escorts business significantly and with changes and new features, there is also a learning curve which is also intended.


Spammers and fakers are unfortunately part of our support's daily workload and are unavoidable. We see it as a high importance to continue and improve the credibility of the ratings and fight off spammers. We have planned to build several precautions in order to avoid such fake ratings and that is in progress already.


In the meantime, if you are certain that you have fake reviews, please report them to support and they will ensure that your rating will not be affected and investigate the reviews.


PLANETROMEO TEAM

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FYI I have reported this about 5 days ago and have had no reply so far. I have now cancelled my plus subscription, hoping that this will remove the stars from my profile on 30 January, when it will be downgraded to a regular account. I will subscribe again when you have come up with a solution.

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Planetromeo, you win. I waited for my plus account to be downgraded, but the stars did not disappear. I just subscribed again because I'm going abroad tomorrow and don't want to appear at the bottom of the list. Still no reply from support either. Great service is that! Thanks

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wo you rather be seen first, showing your shabby star ratings... good, I like to know fast, who not to consider, based on his poor reviews.

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@cisne1 thank you for your constructive feedback. And who are you by the way?

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I'm someone that will not be hiring you, (at least not through PR)even as much as I love hiring escorts. You gave in and let them win... sad.

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They will certainly not die if only one escort decides to not renew his subscription. I hoped that by downgrading my account the stars would disappear, as a temporary solution, but that was not the case. I agree: sad but true.

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Heute wurde das Bewertungssystem abgeschaltet und man schreibt:


Hallo HUNQZ,


vor einigen Wochen haben wir ein neues Bewertungssystem für HUNQZ eingeführt. Jedoch ist uns aufgefallen, dass diese Funktion durch Einige missbraucht wird, um ihre Konkurrenten bei HUNQZ in Misskredit zu bringen.


Darum schalten wir diese Funktion vorübergehend ab. Wir nutzen diese Pause, um unsere interne Überprüfung anzupassen und zu verbessern und solchen Missbrauch künftig zu verhindern.


Wir werden die Bewertung so schnell wie möglich wieder aktivieren. Wir entschuldigen uns für eventuelle Unannehmlichkeiten.


Freundliche Grüße,

Dein HUNQZ-Team

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To help to build a really strong and fair rating tool for Escorts/ HUNQZ:


At first (and as long as the rating system doesnt work correct/fair), PLEASE allowed HUNQZ to delete ratings (as they were able before to delete guestbook-entries); of course they can contact the support, but not all escorts want or are able to write and get in contact directly; and there is no need to let ratings in, as long as the system doesnt work fair. Second please view the author of anonymous ratings and if it is positive or negative for HUNQZ. It is okay to allowed anonymous ratings in public but not to HUNQZ. And a HUNQZ should see if a rating is positive or negative, because if not, the system is not able to help the HUNQZ to make their service better.


In the next step please change this things (if you really want a "strong" rating tool):

- no possibility to change or delete ratings: I dont know if you know the escort-business a little bit, but if there was a date and the customer was happy about it, he will give a positive rating and repeat the date after a while; unter that aspekt (repeating a date) most customers ask for or want a reduced price (80%) or better other conditions (longer time for the same price and so on). Some customers try to neogate for every date and all this causes - of course - conflicts with an escort who will not reduce his price. Half of the customers accept it and the old price, the other half doesnt do and start arguing or block an escort and so on. If they have the possibility to change their old rating from positive to negative, they are able to press the HUNQZ. There are many customers who were happy about the date afterwards and give a good rating, but some time later, they are not happy any longer, because the escorts wont give them better conditons (for what is really NO reason). Then they delete or change a rating. That is NOT fair, because the first day they rates was good and i think there shouldnt be a rating possibility, that an escort have to be as they want him to be for ever. No rating changes and no possibility to delete old ratings, BUT possibility to rate each date again.

- no possibility to rate without the HUNQ accepted an date or better a DEAL (because some hunqz sell underwear and so on), so as i suggested before: the customer ask for a deal, the HUNQ accept a deal and the customer then can rate the deal. This 3 steps will prevent many problems with fake ratings to cause damage to the escorts.

- think about a rating system, that allows the HUNQZ to rate the customers too (after they asked for a deal and the escort accepted it): there are many customers who treat escorts very bad and dont pay what they said to pay and so on. I think 60-80% percent of the customers know that escorts have no possibility to do something, if they dont get the money and so on. Think about that escorts are often the poorest people in that business. of course there are escorts who are criminal and so on, but from my point of view, the main problem are the customers: they book an escort but dont open, dont pay, start discussions, say they dont have enough money and so on; when escorts were rated by customers, there is no reason why customers shouldnt be rated by escorts. of course an escorts is a buisnessman and he offers service, so that his ratings should be public. but there should be ratings of customers and the customers should be able to decide if they will view them (for escorts only, of course). Many customers know that there are problems of trust, and such a ratingsystem would be able to solve those problems.

- another idea is to add special votes (1-5 stars) for reliability/punctuality, currentness of pictures, verity of pictures (does they show the person who appears), verity of dicksize, age, adequacy of price, ... built 3-5 categories that customers should give stars for; but dont show these stars of each rating to the escorts... only the total amount/average of stars... like within ebay: there is a rating, everybody can see if it is positive or negative, there is text everybody can read, and there are 3-4 categories you can give stars, that nobody can see, but the average

- allow escorts to disable a rating, but NOT to delete it (if you changed to the 3-step-system as described); it is nessesary to disable an rating, so that it is not viewed, because some ratings are not fair or even illegal content and that may cause trouble; they should count, but there is no need to show the text or so on. maybe you construct it that the rating is displayed with date, positive or negative, but without it text and therefore a line that it was disabled by the escort. so everybody can see when and how many negative ratings there are AND if the escort is fair to view them too, or if he decides to disable them... their TEXT i mean.

- allow multiple ratings (each date/deal one vote): many escorts have customers that book them again and again and dont get new customers so often. if there is only the possibility for one rating, this is not able to be displayed... as within ebay multiple ratings should be possible; you can decice that they will be viewed (as within ebay), but count only one time (as within ebay).

- add an possibility to comment a rating by the escort: if customers are allowed to rate (and write negative things), an escorts has (the natural right) to reply; now you have a system, that allows anonymous shitstorm and the escort is not even aple to know from whom it is... that is very, very irritating, to support that.


And again: mention that most customers dont behave correct, like most escorts here dont behave correct. there is a big complex of misstrust and criminality on both sides. The ratingsystem shouldnt be designd only from the point of view of poor custumers who have to be protected from criminal escorts. the main aim of such an system shouldnt be to bully escorts arround. create a fair system without the need of an excuse that fakers are everywhere. it is NOT fair to create a system, that allow anonymous ratings without any possibility to know from whom they are, without any objective reason (date or deal) and without any possibility to reply.

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you can design it like that: ratings of customers (by escorts) are only viewed to escorts, if a customer ask for a date (like discribed: 1. ask for a date/deal by customer, 2. accept a date/deal by escort, 3. rate a date/deal by both with ratings for the escorts public and ratings for the customers not public but viewed when they ask for a date). This protects the customers, because nobody can see their ratings public and even escorts cant see these ratings, if they dont go the frist step (ask for a date/deal). And when they do, there is no reason, not to show the escorts his, the customers ratings (of other escorts). This would be fair and will cause that customers behave correct, too. Mentin that most of them dont do and that there are no reasons/incentives to do, if escorts are not able to rate them and cause sanktion by that... all this only, if you want a strong system, that is not only to bully the escorts but to make their world a little bit better and not so dangerous...

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So...I m a faker..?